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The Greek in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Disproves the Pretribulation Rapture (Video)

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May 20, 2020

Second Thessalonians chapter two has been the nemesis for pretribulationism. Or what I refer to as the 800-pound gorilla in the Bible of the pretribulationist. This biblical passage has convinced more ex-pretribulationists that …

Did Jerome in the Latin Vulgate Understand Discessio in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as ‘Defection’ or ‘Physical Departure’?

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May 15, 2020

(This is a guest post by Dr. Dean Furlong) Latin Vulgate: “ne quis vos seducat ullo modo quoniam nisi venerit discessio primum et revelatus fuerit homo peccati filius perditionis” (2 Thess 2:3) I …

A Reply to Andy Woods on ‘APOSTASIA Is the Rapture’ – Ep. 104

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December 2, 2017

http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/A_Reply_to_Andy_Woods_on_APOSTASIA_Is_the_Rapture_-_Ep._104.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | EmbedAt a recent pretrib Bible prophecy conference, Andy Woods relied on the flawed research of H. Wayne House's Greek statements, and worse, Woods used it …

REVISITING THE QUESTION: Is the ‘Apostasy’ in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 a Reference to the Rapture?

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November 28, 2017

I have addressed this question many times here and have shown that not only is there no evidence for this, but it is indicative of how many pretribs white-knuckle their pretrib Tradition. To …

The Greek Noun Apostasia Never Means a ‘Physical-Spatial Departure,’ e.g. the Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (Part 1) – Ep. 84

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April 26, 2017

http://traffic.libsyn.com/thebiblicalprophecyprogram/The_Greek_Noun_Apostasia_Never_Means_a__Physical-Spatial_Departure_e.g._the_Rapture_in_2_Thessalonians_23_Part_1_-_Ep._84.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed“Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not arrive until the apostasia (apostasia) comes and the man of lawlessness is …

Reply to H. Wayne House on the Claim that APOSTASIA Can Mean ‘Spatial Departure’

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April 23, 2017

In my public debate in the cross-examination period with Thomas Ice I honed in on the Greek noun apostastia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. I finally got him to admit in our cross-examination that …

My Cross-Examination Period with Thomas Ice in the Prewrath vs Pretrib Debate

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December 31, 2016

DEBATE VIDEO: Pre-Wrath vs Pre-Tribulational Rapture | Bible Prophecy

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October 22, 2016

It's been over a year now since I debated Thomas Ice. I am glad the debate happened because thousands of people have either listened to the debate audio or watched the video. I …

Does Apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Refer to a ‘Physical Departure’ (i.e. the Rapture)?

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September 11, 2015

Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion (apostasia) comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction – 2 …

Richardson and Ice Briefly Debate the Antichrist

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May 30, 2015

If you did not have the chance to catch my recent discussion / debate with Dr. Thomas Ice on Up For Debate hosted by Julie Roys on Moody Radio then you can listen …

RAPTURE DEBATE ANNOUNCEMENT: Alan E. Kurschner (Prewrath) and Thomas Ice (Pretribulational)

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May 5, 2015

UPDATE HERE!   https://www.alankurschner.com/rapture Rapture Debate: September, 25, 2015 in Plano Texas at The Hope Center. The thesis is: The Church Will Face the Antichrist Before the Rapture Prewrath exponent Kurschner will take …

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